- I think the cave artists were trying to say many things with the cave paintings. I think they could have been trying to say practical things such as writing down information or a story. I also think they were trying to display beauty and while they might have been trying to say other things, I think they were doing art for the sake of art. The saw beauty or spiritualness in animals and so they drew the animals to show the beauty they saw. Underneath all of arts messages, there is a beauty to it and the purpose of capturing something beautiful.
- I think the majority of paintings were animals because they were not egotistical as a culture. They maybe saw more beauty in animals then they did in themselves. I think they saw something spiritual, magical, or mysterious in the animals. They saw something that they admired or were curious about is what I think. They is also the possibility that to be able to hunt the animal they needed to know the animal better, so they drew what they knew about the animal. It did say that when humans were drawn, they were simplistic and shown in hunting parties.
- The paintings tell us that they were hunters. They saw value in the paintings because it took hard work to paint them especially in some areas. It could have been a form of communication or written history. They were most likely a spiritual culture and they were smart. They used lamps, portable light sources, developed pigments, and used scaffolds to create these paintings.
- They encountered several difficulties. They needed light because the caves went deep and were not supplied by natural light. Some areas were too high and they needed scaffolds to reach the areas. The developing of the paint to paint the drawings. The rock formation was also a difficulty. Some areas of the rock were formed so that it was hard to paint on it or so that it was hard to engrave on it.
- As the website discusses, they do have a seasonal pattern that is consistent in all of the paintings. The cave artists could also be trying to give their people something beautiful to look at or trying to tell a story. They could have also been trying to show something spiritual or magical. I think it is combination of all three reasons and there could also be other other reasons we have not discovered or may never discover.
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- This image displays two of my favorite art forms. This image is a painting by Degas. Degas is an impressionist and a realist painter. I love the art form of painting and impressionism and realism are my favorite types of paintings. The second art form is the form of dance called ballet. Degas has many paintings centered on ballerinas. Dance is another type of art form I love and ballet is my favorite type of dance. Paintings are trying to communicate a message. Degas is trying to communicate beauty and realism. Often his paintings try to show the loneliness, such as in this painting. Ballet has the function of displaying beauty as perfection and storytelling. Every ballet is a story through dance and not words.
- There is a culture around every art form and there are subcultures in that culture. There is an art culture that is filled with artists, art enthusiast, museum curators, gallery owners, art collectors, and others. I would say they all behave more sophisticated and there are different dress between the different members of the culture. Mostly, the dress more sophisticated. Within that culture, there are subcultures surrounding different types of art. For example, abstract, impressionism, and surrealism. Ballet also has its own culture filled with ballerinas, artistic directors, choreographers, and people who go and see ballets on a regular schedule. They also behave sophisticated. The ballerinas want perfection. On stage, there is a certain type of costume the ballerinas wear and you dress formally when attending ballets.
- The art form does not have any detrimental affects. Art can please, shock, or repulse you and that is what it is supposed to do. It is supposed to give you a perspective on something and provoke thoughts. It is also to capture a moment in time and to capture beauty. Although all art forms may not appear beautiful, I think in all of their own ways each art form is beautiful. It has a certain magical element to it. It benefits society because it makes you think and gives you different perspectives. It opens your eyes to history and to new things.
"They is also the possibility that to be able to hunt the animal they needed to know the animal better, so they drew what they knew about the animal."
ReplyDeleteI tend to agree with this line of thinking. Given how difficult it was to create these pictures, do you think it likely to do it just because the animals are beautiful? Or perhaps because it provided a more concrete benefit?
What evidence do you see that they were "most likely" a spiritual culture?
Again, with regard to your listed functions, art for our early ancestors was costly, in terms of time, equipment, labor and even life threatening. So why do it for something as elusive as beauty and spirituality? It is certainly a possibility, but consider that there might have been more materialistic reasons. You do mention some in terms of record and communication.
Good final discussion. Art itself doesn't have detrimental affects, but can it be used to that purpose? Can people be hurt by art?
I really agree with your assessment of the cave dwellers art as being a display of beauty and as a means to tell a story. I think the cave dwellers painting also was there to tell future people what the culture was like in their time of day. Also, I like how you talked about the function of the cave paintings as being of magical or spiritual purpose. I liked learning about the art form of ballet. I had not really thought of it as an art form but now I see why it is. Very nice post.
ReplyDeleteYes, I think the cave paintings had a more concrete benefit of possibly being able to teach the culture about the animals they were hunting. I think that it is more likely that there were other reasons then painting art for beauty, but I do not believe that can be ruled out as a possible reason. Many artists have gone through painstaking processes to complete artistic forms. Ballet, for example, ruins your body and especially your feet. Many ballerinas have to retire at age 35 because they are too old for it and their bodies can no longer handle the stress and they often have several medical problems when they are older, but they do it because they love the beauty and art form of ballet. It serves no other purpose than to tell a story through a beautiful dance. Another example is the painter Chuck Close. He was at first paralyzed from the neck down, but now has some slight feeling in his arms and legs. He paints massive paintings by doing them in little sections. He can barely move his body, but he continues to paint to show the beauty in what he sees. So even though something is difficult, I think there is still the will power in people to want to create something that they believe is beautiful.
ReplyDeleteI should probably have not said they were most likely a spiritual culture, but I think that is also another valid possibility as to why they painted the animals. They might have a beliefs toward the animal and might have been painting the animals to worship them similar to how ancient Romans, Egyptians, and other cultures had paintings or monuments to the things they worshiped.
While I do think the paintings could have been for beauty or spiritual reasons, I do agree that it is more likely that they were for more concrete or materialistic reasons or that it could have been both for beauty and for materialistic reasons.
Finally, I do not believe that art can hurt people if viewed with an objective perspective and nothing is taken personally, but it is also how you define what is included in the term 'art.' Many people consider advertisements to be art and I definitely think it can and is being used to hurt people.
I agree that spirituality might indeed be a possible explanation, but the step from being NON-spiritual ancestors to spiritual ancestors is a HUGE transition and shouldn't be taken lightly. This is a key question in our history... when did we start asking questions that led to the mental steps of creating a system of worship? It is relatively easy to see the value of keeping records and communication. It is a different question to say that our ancestors saw value to a non-material return, such as spirituality.
DeleteThank you for the response.
The paintings in the cave really show the respect and admiration that people had to animals, but I think they have a more materialistic purpose. The paintings were a way to take control of their animals to survive. Probably the community saw animals more like a meal than a spiritual thing, and the paintings is a manual for hunting or something.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the shared the information about ballet and modern painting. I looking forward to know more about Degas